Quadraphonic Discography "Rumors"

Quadraphonic Discography Rumored Unreleased Recordings
9-16-2017 VERSION 1.5

This is a list of titles that are rumored to have been mixed for a
Quadraphonic recording and where never issued.
If you have any knowledge of these rumors and can confirm or deny
any of this information, please pass on the info (or a copy of the
recording!).
A list of recordings that were advertised but not issued can be
found in the NOT ISSUED discography.
A list of the Columbia "Underground" Quad reels from the Mike Robin
collection can be found here.

Please send any additions or corrections to this list to :

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Contents:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M
N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

1. List compiled & Copyright by: Mark Anderson

ATLANTA RYTHEM SECTION
* Just doing some google searching and came across an interesting mention on an online US
law archive/portal about a lawsuit between the Atlanta Rhythm Section and Polygram Records.
This was the pertinent bit about their contract:
Delivery under the agreement required BBP to "deliver completed, edited and fully mixed
master tapes in accordance with the Company's reasonable instructions" comprising a
two-track stereo and a discrete quadraphonic master tape for each Master recorded hereunder
together with a "reference lacquer" therefor, which tape shall be fully edited, mixed and
leadered prior to delivery to Company [Polygram] so that they are in proper form for the
production of parts necessary for the *250 manufacture of commercial Phonograph Records.
Now Polygram obviously didn't put anything out in quad, but it makes you wonder if this was
standard wording/a standard requirement in record contracts, and how many of their artists
may have prepared quad mixes that were never released.
It's sort of complex sorting out which companies owned which labels, but during the quad era
it appears that PolygGram owned Polydor, Phillips, Verve, Mercury, MGM, Casablanca, and others.
Intriguing to think about anyway...
QQ Forum, steelydave 07-23-2017
http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?23653-Atlanta-Rhythm-Section-possible-quad-masters&p=340594&viewfull=1#post340594

BEATLES
Rock And Roll Music.
{Years ago, I was in correspondence with a guy who had a box full of otherwise unknown
quad LPs, discards apparently, which he obtained from a friend who'd worked at CBS'
black rock headquarters. They were apparently promo stamped as quad, He made me a quad
reel dub of some of the stuff...a few songs, not full albums...Not sure what I ever did
with that...I went back to my old email correspondence, and it jolted my memory. Among
other quad stuff the guy had were some acetates or test pressings, from the same box.
These included, supposedly, a quad mix of the Beatles Rock and Roll Music. He included
one track from RnRM on a reel he made for me--Back in the USSR--and it DEFINITELY
sounded like a quad mix, with the jet sounds circling the room and whatnot. SHM forum,
kwadguy, Mar 9, 2010}

Sgt. Pepper.
{The MFSL Beatles Box tape box photo for Sgt. Pepper indicates that there was a quad
mix done. SHM forum, aarsonbet, Mar 9, 2010}
{That was a photo of the stereo master tape, which was checked out for a "quadraphonic
remix" in September 1973. It's not clear how that stereo tape was used, either to make
a fake quad mix, or to use as a reference for balancing a new quad mix. There are
reliable reports that an SQ test pressing of "Pepper" resides in the catacombs of
Capitol. SHM forum, Lord Hawthorne, Mar 9, 2010}
{Recently, I was sent a DVD-A containing a Sgt. Pepper 5.1 presentation. I can safely
say it 'might' have come from the multi's as there is some actual separation going on
and it really doesn't seem like it's just the stereo tracks run through a DPL II box
or something like that. But, as other's have pointed out - with the tracking layout of
the multi's, very few of the songs actually sound good. There's just not enough to
play with. DiscoKat, Mar 9, 2010}
{Notations on the box from the master reels only list "Quad remix" on the side 1
(ar 8568/17079a) of Sgt. Pepper on "25/9/73" or Sept. 25, 1973. There is NO corresponding
listing on the box for the master reel of side 2 (ar8569/17079b.) Other "dates/operations
/initials" on the logs are listed on both reels. Being unreleased, does anyone have an
inkling if this was an oversight, or if, in fact, only the tracks on side 1 were mixed
for quad? The master tape box photos were included on the sleeve of my copy of Sgt. Pepper
(disc 8) in my "the Beatles-the Collection" Mobile Fi LP box. QQ Forum, Quad Linda, 07-14-2011}

* Hollywood Bowl.
{Renowned Beatles author Chip Madinger (see www.lennonology.com) comes to us with a great story.
While researching for the excellent Strange Days Indeed, the first in a series of books on
John Lennon, Madinger discovered documentation that both the August 29th (Sunday) and August
30th (Monday) 1965 shows from the 1965 Hollywood Bowl concerts had been mixed and mastered for
both stereo and Quad at Record Plant (Project #623) in July 1971. both a Quad and a stereo
(presumably a collapsed version of the Quad) LP master were prepared at 15 ips and taken away.
WWW.http://wogew.blogspot.com/2016/07/hollywood-bowl-mixed-for-quad.html, The Daily Beatle
07-21-2016}

BOSTON -
Boston.
{Many on this board know that I regularly pine about hearing this album in its unreleased
quad mix. Rumored for many years, I confirmed the rumor with Brad Delp, lead singer a
while back. Some quaddies have claimed to have actually heard an SQ test pressing,
but I have yet to confirm that, actually they seem to be just stories. Sound and Vision
two years ago claimed that Boston was to be one of the first SACD m/c releases.
QQ Forum, deepsky4565, 01-07-2003}
{Someone I was in contact with for a while with close ties to CBS in NYC swore to
me that in the mid '70s CBS had created quad mixes of the first Boston album.
SHM forum, kwadguy, Jan 13, 2004}
{Was set to come out in early '77-quad was dead. SHM forum, Drawer L, Mar 7, 2010}
{There is supposedly a quad mix of the first Boston album that made it to the test
pressing / internal use stage. SHM forum, kwadguy, Mar 7, 2010}
{Was mixed, and made it to test SQ pressing. No one has actually produced one of
these LPs yet. I confirmed this info with Brad Delp a few years ago. This was
also listed in I think Stereo Review as an upcoming MCH SACD to replace the
stereo only version. That didn't happen. SHM forum, deepsky4565, Mar 9, 2010}
{Years ago, I was in correspondence with a guy who had a box full of otherwise
unknown quad LPs, discards apparently, which he obtained from a friend who'd
worked at CBS' black rock headquarters. They were apparently promo stamped as
quad, and included the first Boston album. SHM forum, kwadguy, Mar 9, 2010}

JIMMY BUFFET -
A White Sport Coat and a Pink Crustacean.
{A special album made by ABC for the Koss company and their Phase 4+4 Headphones, Perspectives
ABC album KQD-75 included a portion of the Jimmy Buffett song, "They Don't Dance Like Carmen
No More". Buffett was another ABC recording artist who may have been slated for Quadraphonic
release}

DAVID BOWIE -
Stage.
{live set - recorded in 78, according to Tony Visconti it was set up for Quad specifically.
Everything was also arranged to be sure the right performances were acquired, and indeed
during one track on the release it starts from one city, the middle section is from another
& the end reverts to the first again. QQ Forum, neil wilkes, 03-22-2013}

CAPITOL RECORDS -
- On August 9th, 1975 Billboard magazine reported -

DOZEN SANSUI QS's ISSUED BY CAPITOL

Capitol Records has quietly joined the rank of labels releasing
Quad product in the Sansui QS matrix system. Among a total of
12 albums released a little over a month ago without any notice
was Pink Floyds - Dark Side of the Moon.
First indication of the Quadraphonic release was in New York
during the recent 7th annual International Radio Programming
Forum. The album, bearing only a stereo label and no indication
that it was Quad, was demonstrated in a suite operated by
Sansui.
A spokesman for Capitol Records said last week that the release
consisted of remixed product; the spokesman was unaware that no
announcement had been made or that the product bore "Stereo"
instead of "Quadraphonic".
Capitol previously released a few sampler albums in Columbia
Records SQ matrix system.
A few weeks ago in an exclusive billboard story, Ryosuke Ito,
manager of product development for Sansui's QS 4-channel project
and Motohisa Miyake, director of merchandising development and
industrial designing for Sansui, said that Sansui QS product was
being released in the U.S. with only a Stereo label.
Miyake felt that labels were doing this as protection and that
they feared the matrix quad albums might not be compatible with
existing stereo playback equipment. Miyake of course pointed out
that a Sansui matrix recording is totally compatible.

RY COODER -
* Unknown Album
{So I came across this little nugget from the August 4th, 1973 issue of Billboard magazine,
in an article talking about labels educating their producers about quad mixing.
I was shocked to see Van Morrison's (and Ry Cooder's) name mentioned amongst all the others,
because the rest of them were released. I'm less familiar with Ry Cooder's output from that
period but judging from discogs it looks like he was recording about 2 albums a year for WB
at that point so who knows what they mixed for quad from him.QQ Forum, steelydave, 03-11-2017}

DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON (Classical Recordings)
* Unknown Albums
{Thomas Mowrey produced his all 1970s recordings for Deutsche Grammophon with quadraphonic tapes.
Seiji Ozawa and his Boston Symphony Orchestra worked with Mr. Mowrey and their first efforts
together are already available. And I'm not sure but I think that Claudio Abbado's analogue
recording of Mahler's Fifth Symphony (1980) was recorded in quad as well. Talk Classical forum,
Luukas, 03-01-2016, http://www.talkclassical.com/41449-quadraphonic-4-channel-classical.html#post1046483}

ELO -
ELO II.
{Quad mixes were done of the first two ELO albums. The quad mix for the second
album (ELO 2) continues gather dust in the EMI vaults. SHM Forum, John Carsell,
Jan 14, 2004}
{It seems they only mixed two or three songs on ELO II for quad and quit.
SHM Forum, Lord Hawthorne, Mar 8, 2010}

EMI (Classical Recordings)
SLS951 (SQ) WAGNER: Die Meistersinger Von Nurembourg (Karajan)
(England)
{EMI literature states that the above was recorded in "state of the art quadraphonic sound".
The Quadraphonic Record Center Catalog - 2nd Ed., published by Beggers Banquet/London
1976 Mentions "Credit must be given to EMI who are issuing all their new classical
recordings in SQ. From the view point of public acceptance of quadro, however, they are
maintaining a low profile on this and many retailers stocking EMI classics are unaware
that they are stocking SQ records". Some quad collectors think this might be an unmarked
Quad recording after close examination of the record grooves and using a quad display
scope and a Tate II SQ decoder for as good as a verification you are going to get without
documentation from EMI.}
A quad collector has some interesting comments about this

JETHRO TULL -
* Minstrel In The Gallery.
{I actually cut masters and we did test pressings on a CD-4 release of "Minstrel
In The Gallery" at JVC Cutting Center. I have lacquer ref disc and test pressing
in my library. Though it was near the end of the Quad era this was one of the
most enjoyable mastering projects for me. I had mastered two other CD-4 releases
for Tull and this time Ian Anderson came to the studio for the cutting. Minstrel
has a great sounding quad mix and is a unique concept album that I truly liked
which made it even more exciting. : QQ Forum, DarrellJ, 03-21-2016}

ELTON JOHN -
Madman Across The Water.
{I've stumbled across a couple of references to an unofficial Elton John release
called the "The Alternate Madman Across The Water", which claims to include a
quad mix of the album: QQ Forum, Neb-Maat-Re , 01-23-2013}
{Two discs serve up both the quadraphonic mix of the album, and the special mono
version. ELTON JOHN-The Alternate Madman Across The Water REVIEW, Dave Thompson}
{While it's true that MCA never announced nor actually released a single US quad,
I have it on good authority (second hand) from a record company source in the
70's that every single Elton John release up until 1975 was in fact mixed in
quad, possibly as a hedge against an unexpected rebound in quad's fortunes. It
is likely that these mixes were subsequently destroyed to wash away the stink
of failure the format was then thought to have. QQ Forum, Bidkat, 01-26-2013}
{it seems Quadraphonic mixes of Elton's albums were planned, according to this
article, which just emerged as a feature in the new eltonjohn.com website
makeover today. QQ Forum, fredblue 03-21-2013}
{"it was originally meant to be a place where Gus could re-mix Elton's albums for
quadrophonic release, but that project never materialized."
http://www.eltonjohn.com/about/GusDudgeon/}
{this time from recording engineer Stuart Epps (Producer Gus Dudgeon's right-hand
-man) backing up the Elton Quad story. QQ Forum, fredblue 04-01-2013}
{The studio was being built for Quadraphonic, surround sound you would call it
now. The idea was to re-mix all Elton�s albums in Quad.
http://www.stuartepps.co.uk/eltontheearlyyears.htm}

KENNY LOGGINS -
Alive (1982). Pioneer MP058-22MP (Laserdisc, CX Noise) [Japan], Pioneer
PA-82-019 (Laserdisc, CX Noise)
{I don't know why Pioneer didn't include the Tate/SQ Encoding blurb on the LD releases
of Dolly In London and Bowie Serious Moonlight - but SQ encoded they are! I "think"
Kenny Loggins Alive! (Coked up?) is also SQ Encoded, but I'm not sure. AVS Forum,
Disclord March 3, 2008}

MAMA'S AND THE PAPPA'S -
16 Greatest Hits.
{I believe the story is: a quad Mamas & Papas project, most likely the '16 Greatest
Hits' album was proposed, and work was started on it. But instead of pulling ALL
of the multis at once, they pulled only a handful of them, started to do the quad
mixes, and when they went back for more, the infamous "Let's dump all the multitracks
and mono masters purge" had already occurred. So the handful of multis they had pulled
are the only surviving ones today (If, of course, they survived the fire at Universal,
they nobody wants to talk about...)--And it appears that the Grass Roots multis
that survived are because they were elsewhere being mixed to quad when the big purge
happened. Another couple days later & they would've been lost. SHM forum, Drawer L,
Mar 7, 2010}

PAUL McCARTNEY -
Ram.
{Someone I was in contact with for a while with close ties to CBS in NYC swore to
me that in the mid '70s CBS had created quad mixes of Ram, mixed to quad at CBS
(for McCartney/EMI, obviously), but again, never released. SHM forum, kwadguy,
Jan 13, 2004}

JONI MITCHELL -
Blue.
{Mixed to quad in 1971 according to an article in Billboard in the fall of 1971.
SHM forum, Lord Hawthorne, Mar 6, 2010}

VAN MORRISON -
* Hard Nose The Highway
{So I came across this little nugget from the August 4th, 1973 issue of Billboard magazine,
in an article talking about labels educating their producers about quad mixing.
I was shocked to see Van Morrison's (and Ry Cooder's) name mentioned amongst all the others,
because the rest of them were released. The 'latest album' from Van Morrison at that point
would've been Hard Nose The Highway, but what is interesting is that Ted Templeman also
produced or did the stereo mixes for the two albums that preceded that one, St. Dominic's
Preview (1972) and Tupelo Honey (1971). QQ Forum, steelydave, 03-11-2017}

LAURA NERO -
Christmas and the Beads of Sweat.
{another Jim Reeves mix. QQ Forum, Q-Eight 11-11-2013}

PINK FLOYD -
* Meddle.
{In the book "Shine On", page 33 mentions "21st - 26th September. Recording
sessions at Command studios for quad mix. With the release of "The Early Years" Box Set
it was learned that the song Echoes was the only song mised in quad for the album}

Wish You Were Here.
{A CD-4 test pressing was supposidly pressed for technical evaluation at the
JVC quad cutting lab that was located in the RCA building in Hollywood, one
floor above the L.A. office for Fantasy Records. Fantasy employee 2010}

PYE - STEREO 4D SERIES
Some of the Pye Stereo 4D series Vinyl recordings that do not list quad on
the recording are thought to be QS encoded. The Pye recordings that are listed
in the classical, popular and sampler discography's all have some indication of
quad either on the front or back cover or record label. A list of Pye recordings
has been created indicating which titles list quad and variations in other
countries that could be verified at the time. Any additions or corrections are
appreciated.

Pye 4D Series Discography

A Quad collector did an evaluation of the titles that do not list quad

{Pye may have released a couple of full price albums in Quad (I have a New Zealand
pressing of Tony Hatch's "Hits Symphonic" QUAD 1016) but I also have a stereo
white label of "The Amazing Grace of Sounds Orchestral" NSPL 18395 with the
intriguing note on its typewritten tracklisting that it was to have been issed as
QUAD 1010 but that the release had been cancelled. All subsequent "Stereo 4D"
releases were simply stereo. There are noticeable phase differences in the Quad
pressings. SHM forum, TonyCurrie, Oct 3, 2012}
{LS: You released several albums on the Pye 4D imprint, although only a few of this
series are actually quadraphonic � do you have any insight as to what the strategy
was with those releases?
Tony Hatch: Anything labelled Quad should have been four dimensional. Originally
Quad was only recommended for classical music especially symphony orchestras where
a big natural spacious effect could be achieved. Then the industry decided to
include lighter 'pop' albums. I had great problems mixing down to quad compatible
stereo. All to do with phasing! Individual sounds could be cancelled out so,
whilst the quad mix was OK, in stereo you could have too much reverb, say, on the
strings because the primary signal had disappeared. Do another mix and monitor in
stereo then the quad effect would be lost. I'm glad the whole idea was finally
'phased out'. http://www.licoricesoul.co.uk/lsd008.php}

TODD RUNDGREN -
Something/Anything?
{A unoffical 4 channel DTS cd exists but it is unclear from what source}

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN -
Born To Run.
{Someone I was in contact with for a while with close ties to CBS in NYC swore to
me that in the mid '70s CBS had created quad mixes of Born To Run.
SHM forum, kwadguy, Jan 13, 2004}
{There is supposedly a quad mix, made it to the test pressing / internal use stage.
SHM forum, kwadguy, Mar 7, 2010}
{Years ago, I was in correspondence with a guy who had a box full of otherwise
unknown quad LPs, discards apparently, which he obtained from a friend who'd
worked at CBS' black rock headquarters. They were apparently promo stamped as
quad, and included Springsteen's Born to Run. SHM forum, kwadguy, Mar 9, 2010}

SIMON & GARFUNKEL -
Bookends.
{the engineer Jim Reeves claims to have mixed this one. QQ Forum, Q-Eight 11-11-2013}

STYX -
* The Grand Illusion. A&M QU-54637
{A listing at Discogs with the quad catalog number indicates 2 owners of the LP,
The photo is of the compact disc version.
https://www.discogs.com/Styx-The-Grand-Illusion/release/7913289}

THREE DOG NIGHT -
Three Dog Night.
{Quad master that found its way onto eBay a few years ago. It had DO NOT USE in
big red letters all over the box. QQ Forum, Q-Eight 01-07-2010}

DENNIS WILSON -
Quad Symphony.
{I think this was one of the first quad recordings ever made and was used as a
demo in a seminar for the Audio Engineering Society in Hollywood by Steve Desper.
SHM forum, dumangl, Mar 7, 2010}

THE WHO -
Quadrophenia.
{A quad mix was made, it was intended to be released in quad only, but stereo-
compatible in the SQ mode for LP. When they played a test pressing on a stereo
system to check for compatibility, it came out sounding mono, or virtually mono.
Disheartened, it was remixed for stereo, and the quad mix never saw the light of
day. Pete Townsend tells this story in an interview from about ten years ago.
They could have released both mixes, like all other releases mixed for both
markets. SHM forum, Lord Hawthorne, Jan 1, 2011}
{For what it's worth, I just thought it was worth mentioning here that
Quadrophenia actually did have a legitimate catalog number for the quad version
back then. It really was listed in the Shwann catalog at the time and I remember
trying to hunt one down for a while until I finally figured it just wasn't going
to happen. SHM forum, H-Man, Apr 4, 2011}
{Pete Townshend: "The whole conception of Quadrophenia was geared to quadraphonic,
We spent months mixing it and then found out that MCA was using the CBS quad
system and ... you might as well forget it. So our engineer remixed it in the
same manner that it was mixed in stereo. http://www.thewho.net/linernotes/Quad.htm}

Tommy.
{Polydor (U.K.) have the regular release of the Who-Tommy and the Who-Quadrophenia
in unmarked QS matrix format created by Sansui. The Quadraphonic Record Center
Catalog - 2nd Edition, published by Beggars Banquet Record store in Earl's Court,
London, summer of 1977}

Acknowledgments :

This page would like to thank the following folks who have passed on information
with additions, comments and corrections to this list :
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